CNN Cites Racist For Article On Obama.

by canadian gal, Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 12:41:30 AM EST

(cross-posted at Kickin it with CG and Clintonistas for Obama)

Today, in a CNN article titled, "Could an Obama Presidency Hurt Black Americans?" John Blake warns that "an Obama victory could be twisted to suppress the push for racial equality" and cites several commentators -- including African-Americans, whites, Latinos, and conservatives.

One such source is Steve Sailer.  

For those of you that are not familiar with Mr. Sailer - he is a columnist for the American Conservative magazine. Last year he wrote that some whites who support Obama aren't driven primarily by a desire for change. [...]

"So many whites want to be able to say, `I'm not one of them, those bad whites. ... Hey, I voted for a black guy for president"

"They hope that when a black finally moves into the White House, it will prove to African-Americans, once and for all, that white animus isn't the cause of their troubles. All blacks have to do is to act like President Obama - and their problems will be over."

A sampling of some of Sailer's beauties:

- African-Americans: "tend to possess poorer native judgment than members of better-educated groups. Thus they need stricter moral guidance from society"

- Obama's 'Blackness': "the brutal truth: Obama is a 'wigger'. He's a remarkably exotic variety of the faux African-American, but a wigger nonetheless."

- Michelle Obama: "sounds like she's got a log-sized chip on her shoulder from lucking into Princeton due to affirmative action."

- Katrina Victims: "Nor is it surprising that the black refugees at the Superdome and the convention center failed to get themselves organized to make conditions more livable. Poor black people seldom cooperate well with each other because they don't trust other blacks much, for the perfectly rational reason that they commit large numbers of crimes against each other."

Several of Sailer's comments appeared on the site VDARE, which the Southern Poverty Law Center has classified as a white nationalist hate group.

How the hell could CNN use Sailer as a source when he has a history of repeatedly made racially insensitive remarks? Shame on you CNN.

Oh and if you want to send good old Steve a message - here is his blog.




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Shame on you CNN. (2.00 / 17)


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 12:42:23 AM EST

CNN has gone to the dogs since Ted Turner left.. (2.00 / 7)

I wonder whether the CNN folks did some elementary background checks (Google..hello?) on the folks they are quoting..


by louisprandtl on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 12:45:12 AM EST
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They just don't get it: Fair <> Ballanced (2.00 / 2)

First bullied blindly into the need to present "both sides" by the right, they continue to do so even when there is no legitimacy to the other side. After all, this is a news outlet that keeps Glenn Dreck on the air.


I attended PUMACon '08!!!
by iohs2008 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:58:40 AM EST
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msm media=fail (2.00 / 1)

Yeah it is so sad. I have watched the news channels for years and I think that their abject failure to be honest brokers of the fourth estate has made them irrelevant.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 04:58:44 PM EST
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CNN.com Feedback (2.00 / 12)

It only takes a minute.


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 12:49:15 AM EST

Re: CNN.com Feedback (2.00 / 5)

Done.


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:27:53 AM EST
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Here's what I sent them: (2.00 / 2)

What the hell kind of outfit are you running that you see fit to quote racists like Steve Sailer in your articles?
Do you not even bother to find out who the "experts" you quote are?  Are you lazy?  Incompetent?  Or are you so desperate to suck up to the right wing that you'll quote any scumbag, no matter how loathesome, just so the mean, meanies on talk radio won't say mean things about you?
Whichever it is, you come out looking bad.
ооо
by Mumphrey on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 03:20:39 PM EST
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Re: CNN Cites Racist For Article On Obama. (2.00 / 7)

I can't believe he called Obama a "wigger."

Talk about lowering the quality of the public discourse.


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 12:54:47 AM EST

this guy is a douche... (2.00 / 9)

but saying that is an insult to douches everywhere.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:00:01 AM EST
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Re: this guy is a douche... (2.00 / 7)

True dat!

I just sent them this comment (sorry for cut/pasting the quotes directly from your diary, but I guessed you wouldn't be TOO bothered by it).
________
To: CNN

In your article "Could an Obama presidency hurt black American?" you cited Steve Sailer's comment about white voters wanting to have voted for a black man for reasons of guilt.  Here are some of his comments you didn't cite:

"[Blacks] tend to possess poorer native judgment than members of better-educated groups. Thus they need stricter moral guidance from society."

"the brutal truth: Obama is a 'wigger'. He's a remarkably exotic variety of the faux African-American, but a wigger nonetheless."

"Nor is it surprising that the black refugees at the Superdome and the convention center failed to get themselves organized to make conditions more livable. Poor black people seldom cooperate well with each other because they don't trust other blacks much, for the perfectly rational reason that they commit large numbers of crimes against each other."

Regarding Michelle Obama: "sounds like she's got a log-sized chip on her shoulder from lucking into Princeton due to affirmative action."

His comments have generally been well received...by the racist community.  

Perhaps the author of this piece didn't know that Mr. Sailer is a bigot pretending to engage in an honest discourse about race in America.  But he is.  And as a major force in American journalism, using his comments as a source is unacceptable.


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:02:42 AM EST
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good one! (2.00 / 4)

what boneheads to quote a guy like this.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:05:44 AM EST
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Re: good one! (2.00 / 2)

I have black friends who call me 'wigga' all the time.

Is it supposed to be a racist slur?  If so, then I'm going to have to start kicking some ass.

And I agree with the sentiment that if the AA's in this country acted more like Obama instead of blaming whitey for their troubles, many of the inner city problems would fade away.  He's basically saying what Bill Cosby has been saying for years.  Take responsibility, pull yourself up, better yourself.  It's sound advice.

If many of you consider that racist, then I contend that YOU are the racists as you WANT THE BLACKS to stay down.  I can think of no other explanation for being so PISSED OFF that someone (this guy, billcosby, obama) would suggest that blacks may be respobsible for many of the problems they blame on whitey (another racist term, btw, but no one here would care).

He DOES sound a bit on the edge, but he is no David Duke.  He's just a pissed off white guy.

As far as the michelle comment, well hell, it was impolite, but objections to affirmative action are not racist in my view.


I'm for a timeline on Iraq, public funding of elections, women's reproductive rights, gun restrictions and universal suffrage. So why should I vote for Obama?
by William Cooper on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 05:55:58 AM EST
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Re: good one! (2.00 / 2)

"Wigger" most often refers to suburban white boys trying to imitate the gangstas- flashing gang signs, rapping(or trying to), wearing the urban clothes, trying to sound urban black.
Not really racist, but definitely not a compliment.
"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 07:06:31 AM EST
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Re: good one! (2.00 / 2)

Well hell, I'm as non-wigga as I could be, then.  I guess they do it to give me shit.  It's usually when we're all sitting around stoned on a friday night.

Maybe next time I'll come dressed as M and M.


I'm for a timeline on Iraq, public funding of elections, women's reproductive rights, gun restrictions and universal suffrage. So why should I vote for Obama?
by William Cooper on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 09:29:25 AM EST
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Re: good one! (none / 0)

"blaming whitey"?  Did L. Whitey Johnson start enforcing an age-limit or something?


I have that readiness.
by Jess81 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 08:48:16 AM EST
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Re: CNN Cites Racist For Article On Obama. (2.00 / 3)

Here is a link to the CNN contact form for submitting a complaint.

Here is the text of the email I sent them. You can get the segment title from my email.


I was disgusted that you presented an avowed racist, Steve Sailer, as a conservative writer on your segment on Black America -  Could an Obama presidency hurt black Americans?

A simple background check would have turned up some of Mr. Sailer's comments. Mr. Sailer is a frequent contributor to vdare.com, a site that the Southern Poverty Law Center classifies as a White nationalist hate group

You may have spared yourselves some embarrassment, if your researchers had bothered to use Google - http://mediamatters.org/items/2007031400 04


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:16:37 AM EST

Oops! didn't incude the entire email (2.00 / 2)

I was disgusted that you presented an avowed racist, Steve Sailer, as a conservative writer on your segment on Black America -  Could an Obama presidency hurt black Americans?

A simple background check would have turned up some of Mr. Sailer's comments. Mr. Sailer is a frequent contributor to vdare.com, a site that the Southern Poverty Law Center classifies as a White nationalist hate group

You may have spared yourselves some embarrassment, if your researchers had bothered to use Google - http://mediamatters.org/items/2007031400 04


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:17:53 AM EST
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Oops #2 (2.00 / 2)

Guess it's time for bed. I forgot the link to their contact form. http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1. html?39


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:31:30 AM EST
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Re: CNN Cites Racist For Article On Obama. (2.00 / 1)

L. Whitey Johnson is being quoted on CNN?


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:20:54 AM EST

Re: CNN Cites Racist For Article On Obama. (2.00 / 1)

Where?


I have that readiness.
by Jess81 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 08:49:13 AM EST
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Not the first time (2.00 / 4)

Good 'ol "Independent" Lou Dobbs used a map generated by the Council of Conservative Citizens (formerly the Council of White Citizens) to warn his viewers about the scary scary Mexicans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alex-koppe lman/cnn-stands-by-lou-dobbs-_b_21617.ht ml


by JJE on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:48:03 AM EST

Re: Not the first time (2.00 / 6)

Lou Dobbs and Pat Buchanin should go live in Wyoming together. Just please get them off the news channels.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:56:23 AM EST
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Re: Not the first time (2.00 / 6)

and the hits keep coming.

CNN is sticking by it. this pattern of defending their usage of racial material is downright annoying.

[watch out for those scary mexicans, Lou Dobbs!! they are coming to force feed you burritos and tortas.]


by alyssa chaos on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:09:00 AM EST
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Re: Not the first time (2.00 / 7)

Lou Dobbs has turned into one of the scariest nationalistic populists I have seem in a while. I am stunned that he still has a platform.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:15:48 AM EST
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Re: Not the first time (none / 0)

Lou Dobbs would get along quite well with this guy:

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by ProgressiveDL on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 04:29:06 PM EST
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Re: Not the first time (none / 0)

Oops, that didn't really work very well.  Sorry for the tiny picture.


by ProgressiveDL on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 04:29:46 PM EST
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CNN's been getting lazy lately (2.00 / 4)

This is what, the nth' time they done something stupid during this campaign?


by johnny venom on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:49:52 AM EST

Re: CNN Cites Racist For Article On Obama. (none / 0)

I'm sorry, but I thinks its legit to quote this guy in reference to an Obama victory being "twisted to suppress the push for racial equality."

If he's one who might twist, then it's good to get the quote. Do you think anyone who wants to twist an Obama victory like that will have a good background?

I won't accept this guy as an authority on race, but I think his quote has a role in the story. Trying to lock anything unacceptable out of media is just foolish - just because its not quoted doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


by Falsehood on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:52:21 AM EST

Re: CNN Cites Racist For Article On Obama. (2.00 / 1)

As an example, I would welcome coverage of Karl Rove talking about how he manipulated the media and pushed his message in elections.

I would view that as newsworthy, even though I don't like what Rove did.


by Falsehood on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:54:57 AM EST
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i see your point... (2.00 / 1)

but still no - the guy writes for a a white nationalist hate group amongst his stellar body of fail.  im sure there was a better source.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:01:03 AM EST
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Should be other way 'round... (2.00 / 3)

...more like: "...Rove manipulated elections and pushed his message in the media..."


by bobswern on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 04:43:30 AM EST
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an email has been sent- (2.00 / 4)

this guy needs to go slam his head in a car door.like now.

the shit that is spewing from this guy's mouth is unbelievable.

my letter to CNN

Why CNN? why? Why would you cite Steve Sailer in your article, "Could an Obama presidency hurt black American?"

How can you cite a man that has said these things:[list of the spewage]

Mr. Sailer has proven himself a biased  journalist, emphasis on biased and I wouldn't even consider him a journalist. His previous remarks, and his contribution to the site, VDARE, which the Southern Poverty Law Center has classified as a white nationalist hate group is evidence alone to not quote this guy.

You guys are lazy. Sloppy at best. Did you think people wouldn't notice this man's past racists remarks? You owe it to your readers to remove his quote from your article. You should be denouncing Sailer, but instead you gave him a platform and let him continue his message of hate.unbelievable.

ay.


by alyssa chaos on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:58:17 AM EST

Re: CNN Cites Racist For Article On Obama. (2.00 / 1)

I have noticed a few stories on CNN about how African Americans are not supporting Obama. One was how some AA Ministers are not backing Obama. That story was really lame, like one guy who had a problem with Obama. I am sure they have pushed this meme a few other times but am too lazy to look.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:03:27 AM EST

The entire article is a racist attack on Obama. (2.00 / 1)


by Beren on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:49:28 AM EST

Unacceptable (2.00 / 2)

I'm at work now, but CNN can expect a very pointed comment from this viewer. I'm all for free speech, but paid speech - like every other business in the country - needs to respect the sensibilities of it's customers.


by Neef on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 12:09:59 PM EST

Uhh... (none / 0)

How the hell could CNN use Sailer as a source when he has a history of repeatedly made racially insensitive remarks?
This is somewhat funny considering how many months this site allowed diarists to continue linking to this guy and several other Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists for their Obama smearing diaries.  In fact, several people were actually warned and/or banned by the site's administration (and by that I mean Jerome) for calling these diarists out as the racists they clearly were.


by Whash on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 04:52:15 PM EST

Re: Uhh... (none / 0)

not that it is the admins job to check out diarist's sources...  but could you please provide some links?


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 05:13:09 PM EST
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Re: Uhh... (none / 0)

Not off-hand.  But there were numerous (I mean, at least a dozen from a single diarist) recc'ed diaries here using him and VDare as a source.  Many of the now departed 'Pumas' used him as a source on a regular basis.  When some of us pointed out exactly who and what they were citing/sourcing, we were warned, told we were 'race-baiting' and attacking other posters...


by Whash on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 06:11:46 PM EST
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Re: CNN Cites Racist For Article On Obama. (none / 0)

Willie C....
You crack me up...
 You are reminding me of Elmer Fudd
without the stammer....
What you need to do is branch out...
Write a diary...
after all your comments are pretty much=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLVCmqSAf Bs

CG...thanks for this call to action..


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 05:43:00 PM EST

Re: CNN Cites Racist For Article On Obama. (none / 0)

I have a suspicion that WC might be a reincarnation of aliveandkickin.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 06:52:39 PM EST
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Re: CNN Cites Racist For Article On Obama. (none / 0)

Nah, he generally wouldn't start out so beligerent.  It's somebody's sockpuppet for sure though - I saw cameoanne rec'ing him saying "I'm as far from a wigger as they come", which is a stupid thing to rec.  Maybe her?


I have that readiness.
by Jess81 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 07:15:47 PM EST
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Re: CNN Cites Racist For Article On Obama. (none / 0)

Nogo - I didn't click on the link, but is it safe to assume that it's a video of a cat licking its own nuts?  Because that would be the most appropriate image.


I have that readiness.
by Jess81 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 07:17:17 PM EST
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